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It Just Got Easier to Get a Concealed Carry Permit in O.C.

The Orange County Sheriff's Department will loosen its requirements in response to a recent federal appellate court ruling.

In response to a recent federal appellate court ruling, the Orange County Sheriff's Department is loosening the requirements for a concealed carry permit. Patch file photo.
In response to a recent federal appellate court ruling, the Orange County Sheriff's Department is loosening the requirements for a concealed carry permit. Patch file photo.

The Orange County Sheriff's Department has relaxed the requirements for obtaining a concealed-weapons permit, reflecting a recent federal appellate court decision that deemed many urban counties in California to be overly restrictive in saying who can carry a concealed weapon and who can't.

Local applicants seeking a permit to carry a concealed weapon now only have to say they need one for self-defense or personal safety in the aftermath of Wednesday's decision. Previously, applicants were required to prove “good cause,” a standard that typically limited concealed weapons in Orange County to people who carry large sums of cash or valuables or who could prove an existing mortal threat, the Orange County Register reported.

“Bottom line is the sheriff is going to abide by the law,” Lt. Jeff Hallock, a spokesman for Sheriff Sandra Hutchens, told the newspaper.

“Before the court's decision, good cause was something that was evaluated by the sheriff. What she considers good cause may not be same as Los Angeles, Riverside or San Diego as good cause. But in looking at the decision, some of the subjectiveness is taken out of it.”

The Feb. 13 ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was widely seen as the court's attempt to unify the vast differences in how the state's urban and rural counties issue concealed weapons permits. Urban counties have tended to be much tighter in issuing permits while rural counties were more expansive in interpreting an applicant's “good cause” assertion.

San Diego County, which was the defendant in the case, hasn't filed an appeal of the 9th Circuit 2-1 decision, though the deadline is Feb. 27.

--City News Service

Sir Pablo Alvarez February 23, 2014 at 06:28 PM
Wow there sure is lots of misinformed folks here. To those of you that talked about making fun of people with guns at a bar... first of all CCW stands for "Concealed Carry Weapon." The emphasis in on "concealed." If can see it, that would be "open carry" which is not allowed under California law. Secondly, a CCW license is not valid in MANY locations including "establishments whose primary purpose is to serve alcohol" (e.g. a bar). Lastly, to the person that said, " I'm a CA licensed rifle owner myself." No you aren't! California doesn't license people to own guns. You now have to register them upon purchase, yes. However, prior to this year, long guns (rifles and shotguns) did not even get registered when you purchased them from gun shop.
Homer February 24, 2014 at 11:50 AM
Despite the examples of stupidity, they do not prove that the right should be taken away from the remaining citizens of the US. Also: 1. CA has a drop test for new guns. It is part of the manufacture's registration process and is (onerously) enforced for every model, regardless if the physical design is identical between models. 2. No regulation will ever prevent an accident. 3. No regulation will ever be adhered to by a true criminal. Criminals do not typically purchase their firearms from the corner store. One notable source of stolen firearms has been found to be from the cars of members of our police forces.
JFreeman February 24, 2014 at 10:55 PM
there's a lot of great points on here, for both sides. The training process to earn a CCW is going to weed out the gang bangers and 80 year old grandmas who won't be able to use it when that worst case scenario arises. Do you really think the angry, hot-head criminals are going to apply for a CCW? No, those people are already carrying, albeit illegally. There is a huge responsibility that comes with carrying a lethal weapon. Personally, I've been in law enforcement (cadet) and was terrified when I had to draw down on a woman and her gang-banger boyfriend. My only thought was "please...PLEASE do point your gun at me". Most everyone talks a big game, but when you have a loaded pistol in your waistband you actually avoid confrontation. Nobody get's into a fist fight or argument when they're carrying...you just don't want to chance it. I personally feel if you want to lower crime rates and assault cases by 90%, allow OPEN carry in all of California. Just like an empty police car parked on a busy residential street, the mere presence of the weapon is a huge deterrent. It's not the wild wild west anymore, people don' t pick fights with armed citizens.
Shripathi Kamath February 24, 2014 at 11:11 PM
JFreeman February 24, 2014 at 10:55 PM there's a lot of great points on here, for both sides. The training process to earn a CCW is going to weed out the gang bangers ___________________________________________________ LOL
Homer February 25, 2014 at 10:40 AM
If you are laughing at the process requirements to obtain a CCW in OC or LA, then you are truly naive.

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